Summary: Solar panels for a small home needs to get down to a $4,500 to $7,000 price point for it to make economic sense for home owners — a 7 to 10 year break even. It may get to that price point eventually due to demand, decrease in prices of solar panels, improvements in technology (like solar roof shingles), group/community price breaks, and continued tax breaks and rebates.
Details: For 2 to 3kWh systems, current price point is estimated to be about $20,000 for installation. With State rebates and Federal Income Tax credits totaling $5,000 to 6,000 you’re looking at $14,000 – $15,000 for the system. You’re getting about 300 to 450 kWh a month. If you are currently using 400 kWh a month, that’s about $50 a month or $600 a year. This means your break even point is about 25 years. This doesn’t include the home value appreciation due to your solar panel investment.
We average 325kWh a month, about $35/month. Other info:
Borrego Solar seems like a good company. I’ve seen Solar City around the area as well.
People we’ve worked with and recommend.
Michael Stabile (day to day stuff)
Pelican Plumbers (big stuff, copper pipe replacement, etc)
Heating/Cooling and Plumbing
Harry Clark Plumbing (even bigger stuff)
Early Light Electric
Reed Brothers Security
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What I’ve learned about home appliances over the years. Not that much, but enough.
- In general, Kenmore appliances (from Sears) are the way to go. Solid products (mostly private-labeled) and solid customer repair service. A lot of appliances are private label Amana or Bosch. Fagor is a Spanish appliance company and their appliances look nice. Not sure about quality.
- Always good to go to the back of dept stores and see floor models and returned appliances for big discounts 30-40% off. We’ve gotten a bunch of stuff that way. If you buy a set or multiple appliances, bargain for more of a discount. Good to buy during a holiday sale weekend.
- Also, look for the EnergyStar label. However, non-EnergyStar appliances are already more energy efficient than appliances from 10-15 years ago. Look for rebates from your electrical and water companies, you could get $100 to $300+ back.
I like BlueStar a lot. Crazy expensive, near restaurant grade heat and temp control but they look *much* better than Viking and others. Induction cooktops are really cool (highest energy efficiency and temp control) but about 5 – 7 years from being affordable. Don’t get self cleaning ovens.
Whatever brand you get, get a top mount refrigerator (where freezer is the bottom). The $200 difference is worth it. Ours is just Kenmore-Amana.
Bosch all the way (again ours is Kenmore-Bosch). Interior should be stainless steel.
We have Bosch labeled and Kenmore-Frigidaire. Both washers are front loaders, the higher the rpm 1000 to 1200 the better. Front loaders are more efficient with its use of water and spinning water from the clothes for faster drying.
Go for vented (most common) rather than condensation dryers since the vented ones will dry faster.
The all-in-one washer/dryers are supposed to take a long time to dry so the higher capacity ones that are coming out are supposed to be best.
Go for the extended warranty and repair.
We’re going with these guys – Oceanside Glasstile for kitchen backsplash, specifically a “Creme Brulee” iridescent mosaic. 100% recycled glass, yada-yada, hecho en mexico. Part of our mini kitchen remodel. We also went with Dawn for our faucet and sink, I guess these guys are out of China.
We should have the kitchen done by end of March. The time issue with kitchen remodeling isn’t in the actual construction, it’s choosing stuff, ordering it, and waiting for everything to come in. Realistically, it’s like 2 – 3 months just for planning and getting supplies. It’s going to take all of two weeks max to put everything in (wouldn’t be surprised if it only took one week).
I’d love an induction range w/ a convection oven and some sort of solution for a wok (doesn’t exist), but instead of that, I hear the BlueStar range is the one to go with and we’ll probably be getting one in the next couple of weeks.
Probably the 30″ BlueStar Residential Nova Burner. It’s supposed to produce some crazy heat, is well reviewed, and beat out Viking and some other “professional for the home” grade ranges.
We’re doing a light kitchen remodel hopefully start end of January and end in February, early March:
- range, cork floors, new sink/faucet, new counter tops, range hood, backsplash
We’re going to go with Paperstone for the counter tops, a 100% recycled paper product. Cheap, looks good, and seems like a responsible company/product. Vetrazzo and Icestone do recycle glass counter tops that look great too. May yet go with one of those companies but might be too expensive.
ecohome improvement is this store in Berkeley that helps you have a nice eco-friendly (cancer-free) home. We’ve got some more interior upgrades to do namely new carpeting and a kitchen and bathroom upgrade. We’re going to do the carpeting later this year but the kitchen and bath much later but within the next 5 years.
For the carpet we’re thinking natural wool. They don’t put any crap in this carpet, it’s all natural.
For the kitchen, we’re thinking cork floors. Cork floors are soft on your feet and makes for good warmth and sound insulation and resilient to mold and mildew. They come in lots of cool colors too. We’re also thinking bamboo cabinets. Both cork and bamboo are considered environmentally sustainable.
We’re also thinking recycled glass/concrete for our countertops. Check out Ice Stone. Pretty cool company.
The Go Solar California program looks pretty cool and starts January 1, 2007. It’s an incentive program for people to get solar panels installed for their existing homes (but also for new homes and buildings).
California has made a bold decision… to place 3,000 megawatts of new, solar produced electricity systems on rooftops by 2017. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger’s goal is to put solar systems on a million California roofs.
Apparently only 0.3% of our energy comes from solar panels. It’s nice to see this incentive program.
Great article in the SF Chronicle last January about installing solar panels for your home in the Bay Area. They recommend Borrego Solar and I looked up Sky Power Systems and they looked pretty good.
We’ve noticed a lot of solar panels on homes while on vacation in Hawaii but also in our neighborhood. Most of the new complex/developments are being constructed in a “green way” with radiant heating, energy efficient windows, reclaimed wood from trail tracks in China or Brazil (that one is funny), bamboo or cork flooring, and solar panels which is great. Several houses nearby also have solar panels installed too.
Here’s another article about installing solar panels yourself in a step-by-step.
It sounds like the cost of installing a solar panel for our small house will be in the $15,000 (w/ rebate?) to $24,000. Given that our monthly electricity bills are under $50, it’s about a 25-40 year break even point. $5,000 – $10,000 total installation costs is what it would need to get down to in order for it to be in the ballpark of real consideration.
I’ve gotten a bit of a home owner’s vocabulary now that I’ll share in a bit. It’s good to know this stuff but I kinda don’t want to know sub-flooring, joists, dry wall, copper pipes, forced air, radiant heating, blah, blah, blah.
The next two items on tap is replacing our galvanized piping with copper piping. Galvanized pipes corrode and rust so we’re replacing everything with copper pipes which doesn’t do that I guess. We’re also stacking our dryer on top of our washing machine which is exciting because it’s giving us a ton more space. (I’m a tad domesticated.)
Anyway, I’ve been reading up on tankless water heaters and the benefits are:
- unlimited hot water
- space savings, since it’s a small box
- energy savings since it’s on demand hot water versus maintaining a hot water store
The cons seem to be that sometimes you have to wait for the hot water to get going which is lame if all you want to do is wash your hands or hand wash dishes.
The brand that people like I guess is Takagi. It’s interesting to read up on it anyway, apparently the system can be used for radiant floor heating too. Probably not going to get a tankless water heater but it’s cool when I hear other people get it installed, it’s becoming quite popular and already used widely in the UK.
There are other energy efficient things we’re looking at like insulation (easy to do, just need to get done) and solar panels (but not for another 5+ years). We’ve got energy efficient windows, a front loading washing machine, and that’s about it on the being energy efficient stuff.